WWE '13

[Mr.Worms]

yeah ...just wrong .....soooooooo wrong ...VPW2 is a great game and blows WWE12 out the water, so does fire pro returns on ps2 come to think of it

i cant wait for TNAs next game .....simply so i can watch people who say that defend WWE to the hilt without playing it, thus PROVING the fact their is no competition isnt the reason they play it,

and on that day i will quote this and smile lol

aaaand thats not a reason why its good,

yeah its made the game fresher ...but again just cos you put an extra shiny thing in dosnt make it good

you all (exept pete) have become so blinded by the call of duty effect (ironicaly known as the WWE effect when applied to tv) that when you receive the next steaming pile of shit in your hands you instantly think its better than the last one

its called marketing sweethearts

i cant say i blame ya it looks real nice in the trailer but those evil fuckers tactics wont work on me lol

Damn you are ignorant, but I will still try to say this as nice as possible.

I know about all those tactics THQ has been accused for, infact I hear nothing but hatred for THQ, people even wish they went bankrupt, which is insane. But really, Fire Pro Wrestling doesn't have Universe mode, which is one of the best things to happen to a wrestling game ever. I also dont want to play a game where I don't know jackshit about the wrestlers.

For all the hatred I have had for the new WWE Smackdown games, WWE 12 was the biggest improvement since 2006 and a great wrestling game. Well atleast for me it was.

[djeagles11]

like in WWE 12? or do you mean include it along with attitude era in a future game? because if wcw is all you want including some roster its already in WWE 12.

I didn't buy WWE '12. I have small kids, so I spend my money wisely. Gone are the days I could blow all my cash on games...LOL! I would have loveto have seen the Monday Night Wars incorporated into WWE '12. Granted, I don't know to much about this years installment, so I am blind as to what they actually have planned.

[-The Real- Big Pete]

yeah ...just wrong .....soooooooo wrong ...VPW2 is a great game and blows WWE12 out the water, so does fire pro returns on ps2 come to think of it

i cant wait for TNAs next game .....simply so i can watch people who say that defend WWE to the hilt without playing it, thus PROVING the fact their is no competition isnt the reason they play it,

I wouldn't say either VPW2 nor Fire Pro Returns blows WWE '12 out the water Tony...to be fair VPW2 is just WCW Vs nWo: World Tour with knobs on...which basically became WCW vs nWO: Revenge...and yeah that isn't a bad thing...that's a good thing! (to quote DDP! lol!). Those N64 games...which led to No Mercy were great...and yeah...a smart man would've just continued that legacy...but that hasn't happened!

It does give you a great stance on what AKI/Yukes were capable of back in the day...and it smarts that Yukes seem to have become corporate whores with every release of WWE game they've produced. It's a shame the western world can't get "Exciting Pro Wrestling" which is their Japanese version of the SmackDown! games...because I bet they are 1000 times better!

The other contender, the Fire Pro series has always been a stalwart...but again only because it has stuck to the 2D technical style that it has...it's not particularly "pick up and playable", it requires a deeper thought process that most console grapplers can't deal with!  It also hasn't had any major global release, with it being available in North America or Japan without having to import.

The fact that their idea of a Current Gen console version of Fire Pro is to use 3D XBox Avatars and remove blood, weapons and probably the barbed wire and explosives just makes me feel a little bit sick inside! Would it hurt to just release it in it's 2D format? If they just released Fire Pro XB (or whatever they might call it?!) in it's original no nonsense format without the avatar bullshit it would be much better!

At the end of the day, WWE '12 is playable to a point...you can, if you wind back the clock and invite your friends round to play (y'know like you used to do when you have a SNES or PS1/2 with a multi-tap...as appossed to putting up with ignorant American Children with Turbo Pads on XBox Live!) have a really good laugh and great fun setting up tables and shit to put your friends through! In that context it is at least as good as the early incarnations were.

The main problem with WWE '12...as with EVERYTHING ELSE these days is the inclusion of "online play" that apparently takes the most time to sort out...because the important things like gameplay, female models and sweet moves get neglected!

Would it be so hard to just keep the play local...that way all the budget wouldn't be blown on setting up and maintaining (or not in this years case!) the online servers. Then that money could be well spent on putting out a game that was instantly more playable and hell you won't have to wait up for your friends in America or vice versa.

You can get the friends within your closer vicinity to come round to your house (shock! horror!), have some refreshments (because you don't wanna end up like that idiot 15 year old COD kid) and have a fucking good laugh as you set up 4 tables to push your mate off a ladder into.

Bottom line...yeah at least we're there now...until the next TNA game...which WILL blow WWE's system out of the water...comes along and we have an alternative to the present console offering...WWE games will mix and match their glut of options and some years it will work like a charm...whereas other years will just be dull and lifeless cash-ins...

[Tony Spike]

Damn you are ignorant, but I will still try to say this as nice as possible.

I know about all those tactics THQ has been accused for, infact I hear nothing but hatred for THQ, people even wish they went bankrupt, which is insane. But really, Fire Pro Wrestling doesn't have Universe mode, which is one of the best things to happen to a wrestling game ever. I also dont want to play a game where I don't know jackshit about the wrestlers.

For all the hatred I have had for the new WWE Smackdown games, WWE 12 was the biggest improvement since 2006 and a great wrestling game. Well atleast for me it was.

he he he im loving how you think me ignorant simply because your still sucking WWEs corperate sack worms ..but i dont honestly mind ..you can call me susan if it keeps you happy

but like i said on the OTHER thread you bothered to call me out on YOU are the ignorant one dude

you say you buy the games cos they are fun ....and that means that you would but a TNA game if it was better ..but im betting thats not the case

DLC and EXTRA MODES are NO SUBSTITUTE for SHITTY GAMEPLAY ..and yes pete VPW blows the new games out of the water on that alone, i put 12 on at my bro in laws house played 1 game ..got fed up ..havent put it on since got home and put shut your mouth on instead ...because at least shut your mouth is FUN

the fact is that until they truly stop adding thes new create a modes and new legends for you to wank over and actualy make a game thats fun to play than it can kiss my proverbial ass

ok i never played universe mode but i preferred the season mode on SvR 07 if im honest ...when they lost the ability to choose a character in 09 i lost interest ...i mean is it too much to have a few smartly written storylines and angles in a gamethen have them appear randomly over the course of a carreer?

they managed it in 07 to a point

its not ignorance ...if you can back your point up worms ...its fact but even if it wasnt and even if its just MY OPINION then you are the ignorant  one for not seeing it that way

[Bladebeta]

But everyone has different taste,different personalities,and different opinions,you can't say there bad for that can you?!?  I enjoy WWE 12 ..... and I think mainly because of of the CAW mode,universe mode
(which can get really addicting at times to see wtf is going to happen next, what is eddy guerrero going to do to the rookie Eric Von cruise that stopped him from ending chavo guerreros career or will we see AJ styles beat Undertaker in an inferno match for the Champion of Champions title?!?)

As far as gameplay goes I like it to a point,really only thing I didn't like about WWE 12 that I hope they fix in WWE 13 is all the glitches I kept getting from game freezing,characters freezing, Caws entrances or stats resetting, and other glitches that they should have fixed.  Which is why I think they should rather put WWE 13 in November or release it IN 2013......but I guess they still might think of the 2012 profecy lol.

But Everyones different,some people enjoy fighting some people dont,so as far as saying the games terrible,its just all up to you. If tna makes a better game,I would buy it......well might not because I the last game I just might get is a PS3 exclusive but I would if I could lol.

I mean all companies WANT you to buy there game,but its our choice if we want the game or not,if we have fun thats us,if we don't have fun,THEN its a waste of 50 bucks.

Know I will say,I have played better wrestling games,but so far WWE 12 is the most addicting wrestling game I have played.  I'm not saying any of those other games aren't as fun or better due to I won't give an opinion on a game that I haven't had a thorough time of exploring in,seeing all the options,any new options,gameplay,etc. But all I DONT go off of other peoples opinions because I am NOT them. I go off of overall gameplay. 

However,I don't agree on saying people are idiots or so for buying a game, most places I get games,if I didn't like it,I can return it and get my money back,simple as that. Its dumb,though, to keep a game you don't like......or except if you get a game from a store with a "no returns,no refund" policy,then thats just on you. But even so,I think gamestop lets you give games for money I think.

But anyway, I just hope WWE 13(when release) will have fixed all the damn glitches,but hey we haven't seen a finished WWE 13 gameplay yet so until then I'm not going to say "WWE 13 will be the best wrestling game FOR SURE"  but I will say,Chris Jerichos entrance is beast lol.

But yeah,hopefully you get what I'm trying to say.

[Tony Spike]

like i say ..i know plenty of people that hate wwe12 for the same reasons i do ...but even if that was the case it dosnt make my opinion wrong

worms is calling me ignorant chris

but it would be ignorant if i hadnt played it ....even if i played it only the once,

fact is im basing what im saying on MY experiences ..and if worms dont agree with me then fine ...its not gonna change the fact that i think people who buy the games every year are idiots for doing so

i havent bought a WWE game since 09 and based on the fact that i like that better than 2012 should tell you something

[-The Real- Big Pete]

Gotta say...I only have '09 on PS2 and since I found out that the Bushwhackers are DLC on XBox360...I'mma have to track down that bad boy! Plus it means I can complete the damn Legends of WrestleMania shit too!

Fact of the matter is...like I've already said before the new games aren't half as good because I used to play'em on release day for like 36 hours straight (with munchie and toilet breaks!)...I haven't done that for at least 6 years...so we're talking a downhill slide from '06 onwards! But apart from Mat's stuff on PC  and without having to dust down the ol' N64...the WWE shit is all we've got!

I was quite interested in that AAA game...but that didn't materialise on these shores...I loved the TNA game because it was different, I am looking forward to whatever they come out with next because it will give a different slant to wrestling games on consoles and maybe THQ will take note. But as long as THQ keep those fucking monsters (like they put in WCW Thunder on PS1) out of the WWE titles I'll be not so much happy as grateful that we've at least been spared that horrendous glitch!

Hell I might just dust off the ol' N64 and fire up WCW/nWo: Revenge because it was fucking cool! The problem is that because EVERYONE in the whole fucking world is of the opinion that No Mercy and the like were a stepping stone benchmark and yet THQ nor Yukes haven't done a fucking thing to rectify the steaming pile they squeeze out every year...then this argument is somewhat moot.

Until THQ/Yukes wake up and smelllllllllll what the peeps are lookin' for, we're destined to have people say "The new WWE game is the shit!" or "The new WWE game is shit!" regardless of whether they've actually played it or not! It looks good, it plays fine...but it could be so much better...and the DLC is always very poor indeed!

For example in WWE '12 Mick Foley was ALWAYS going to be a downloadable character and yet they still have his moveset/entrance as a separate entity...so essentially you have Mick's shit twice! A wasted moveset that could've been given over to Skinner or someone!

EDIT: I'mma lock this topic now...because it seems we have come to an impass...there are those of us that will buy '13 and then get pissed off if they haven't sorted the shit that went so horribly wrong with '12 and there are those of us that won't buy it because they are waiting for the messiah to arrive and deliver a better wrestling game...

At the very least, neither of these things may happen and we'll all be in agreement that we're grateful that TWC5 is in the works!

[Tony Spike]

my thoughts exactly ....anyways i have 09 on ps2 too and my bro in law on ps3 ..i have to say ..they look no differant from one another its shocking